Comments on: 06/28/2017 http://brunostrip.com/wp/?p=6812 Tue, 20 May 2025 03:13:35 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: John http://brunostrip.com/wp/?p=6812&cpage=1#comment-295702 John Thu, 29 Jun 2017 15:36:42 +0000 http://brunostrip.com/wp/?p=6812#comment-295702 To add to Christopher's links, "trans panic" is a real thing that people have used as an excuse for murdering trans people: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gay_panic_defense#Trans_panic Telling someone that you were born with male genitals might literally be a death sentence for a trans woman, so I can understand why it's not something you'd be in a hurry to share. To add to Christopher’s links, “trans panic” is a real thing that people have used as an excuse for murdering trans people: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gay_panic_defense#Trans_panic

Telling someone that you were born with male genitals might literally be a death sentence for a trans woman, so I can understand why it’s not something you’d be in a hurry to share.

]]> By: Christopher http://brunostrip.com/wp/?p=6812&cpage=1#comment-295701 Christopher Thu, 29 Jun 2017 15:26:49 +0000 http://brunostrip.com/wp/?p=6812#comment-295701 Sorry, didn't mean to rain down on you there, @Kona. I see this broken down into three parts: 1. yeah, sex to a LOT of people can range from meaningful to meaningless. People having sex when they've just met is not uncommon, and people waiting for marriage to have sex occurs too. 2. We all have our inner rules. And if you feel that betrays trust, then it is your right to leave that relationship. Of course. 3. The trans issue is complex. It is important to realize that the feeling in the trans community is that if one is a "M to F" then they ARE a woman. Period. And so, to them, not telling you would NOT be a betrayal. It's also important to realize they've received hate and judgement for being trans probably most of their life. It's also important to realize that them revealing their identity is actually putting their life at risk. The murder rate of trans people is quite high: http://www.newsweek.com/transgender-murders-protect-trans-women-568558 There are lots of books out there if you're curious to learn more. Here's a thread of recommendations. https://www.quora.com/What-are-the-best-books-to-educate-myself-about-transgender-people-and-transsexuality Sorry, didn’t mean to rain down on you there, @Kona.

I see this broken down into three parts:

1. yeah, sex to a LOT of people can range from meaningful to meaningless. People having sex when they’ve just met is not uncommon, and people waiting for marriage to have sex occurs too.

2. We all have our inner rules. And if you feel that betrays trust, then it is your right to leave that relationship. Of course.

3. The trans issue is complex. It is important to realize that the feeling in the trans community is that if one is a “M to F” then they ARE a woman. Period. And so, to them, not telling you would NOT be a betrayal. It’s also important to realize they’ve received hate and judgement for being trans probably most of their life. It’s also important to realize that them revealing their identity is actually putting their life at risk. The murder rate of trans people is quite high:
http://www.newsweek.com/transgender-murders-protect-trans-women-568558
There are lots of books out there if you’re curious to learn more. Here’s a thread of recommendations.
https://www.quora.com/What-are-the-best-books-to-educate-myself-about-transgender-people-and-transsexuality

]]> By: Kona http://brunostrip.com/wp/?p=6812&cpage=1#comment-295700 Kona Thu, 29 Jun 2017 13:36:17 +0000 http://brunostrip.com/wp/?p=6812#comment-295700 Okay, I'm glad everybody else is on board with whatever-floats-your-boat. I've tried to make it clear that I'm really pretty open minded. I just think that having sex with someone is important enough that I'd like the respect of my partner being upfront with me about his/her DNA just in case it matters to me. Which, by the time we've gotten that far in our relationship, it probably wouldn't. But maybe I'm being a neanderthal to think that having sex with someone is that important in a relationship. Okay, I’m glad everybody else is on board with whatever-floats-your-boat. I’ve tried to make it clear that I’m really pretty open minded. I just think that having sex with someone is important enough that I’d like the respect of my partner being upfront with me about his/her DNA just in case it matters to me. Which, by the time we’ve gotten that far in our relationship, it probably wouldn’t. But maybe I’m being a neanderthal to think that having sex with someone is that important in a relationship.

]]> By: Christopher http://brunostrip.com/wp/?p=6812&cpage=1#comment-295699 Christopher Thu, 29 Jun 2017 04:51:08 +0000 http://brunostrip.com/wp/?p=6812#comment-295699 @Kona, basically what Peter said. A trans M-to-F is a woman. If they choose to tell you one day that they were born with male body parts, that is their choice. @Kona, basically what Peter said. A trans M-to-F is a woman. If they choose to tell you one day that they were born with male body parts, that is their choice.

]]> By: Peter Rogan http://brunostrip.com/wp/?p=6812&cpage=1#comment-295698 Peter Rogan Thu, 29 Jun 2017 02:35:14 +0000 http://brunostrip.com/wp/?p=6812#comment-295698 These things are subject to a sort of Turing test: If it looks like a duck, quacks like a duck, and walks like a duck... why should you care if it used to be a goose? This presumption that there's an underlying 'authenticity' all those trans or in some other way not what started out being need to validate for your sense of well-being is tiresome prejudice looking for justification. These things are subject to a sort of Turing test: If it looks like a duck, quacks like a duck, and walks like a duck… why should you care if it used to be a goose?

This presumption that there’s an underlying ‘authenticity’ all those trans or in some other way not what started out being need to validate for your sense of well-being is tiresome prejudice looking for justification.

]]> By: Regulus http://brunostrip.com/wp/?p=6812&cpage=1#comment-295697 Regulus Thu, 29 Jun 2017 00:10:10 +0000 http://brunostrip.com/wp/?p=6812#comment-295697 Why would she have to tell you? Why would she have to tell you?

]]> By: Kona http://brunostrip.com/wp/?p=6812&cpage=1#comment-295696 Kona Wed, 28 Jun 2017 17:04:00 +0000 http://brunostrip.com/wp/?p=6812#comment-295696 Although I’m pretty solidly straight, with possibly a little wiggle room on the Kinsey scale, and I’ve seen and done enough in my life that I don’t have much of an “ick” reflex left, I can’t decide if I’d be more upset that Judi used to be a man or that she didn’t have the honesty or trust to tell me. Although I’m pretty solidly straight, with possibly a little wiggle room on the Kinsey scale, and I’ve seen and done enough in my life that I don’t have much of an “ick” reflex left, I can’t decide if I’d be more upset that Judi used to be a man or that she didn’t have the honesty or trust to tell me.

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